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Honestly - If your a support specialist that can program in various languages, is it really that hard to understand XHTML?
And if it isn’t hard to understand XHTML then is it that hard to develop your scripts to export good XHTML code? Shoot - I’ll even be happy if it’s compliant HTML.
Being it that I’m not a hard core programmer I must be missing something. It must just be increably hard to output good code or even understand forward compatability. I mean - god forbid you actually write something that will work in the next couple years.
More than that, it’s probably worse when some kid half your age has to explain the difference between the two.
Every programming language out there has to written to its respected standards. Java, C, C++, PHP, PERL, Python, etc… Why is it that HTML is allowed to be so messy.
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Despite the above rant I’m actually having a good day. It’s just frusterating when you have to fight to get things done correctly.
posted on September 10, 2002 | 4:55 PM EST
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Geez - I really just need to start learning more about backend development.
actually … it’s because all the languages you described are programming/scripting languages, whereas sgml and all the derivatives of sgml that I know of (html, xml, anything-ml) are markup languages, which really aren’t programming languages. It’s a whole different realm of computer software.
I knew that HTML was a derivative of SGML but I’m pretty sure XML isn’t. Am I wrong on this?
Besides the fact of derivatives - why is SGML allowed to be so unstructured?
Good old XML.com - article found at http://xml.com/pub/a/98/10/guide1.html#AEN58
So XML Is Just Like SGML?
No. Well, yes, sort of. XML is defined as an application profile of SGML. SGML is the Standard Generalized Markup Language defined by ISO 8879. SGML has been the standard, vendor-independent way to maintain repositories of structured documentation for more than a decade, but it is not well suited to serving documents over the web (for a number of technical reasons beyond the scope of this article). Defining XML as an application profile of SGML means that any fully conformant SGML system will be able to read XML documents. However, using and understanding XML documents does not require a system that is capable of understanding the full generality of SGML. XML is, roughly speaking, a restricted form of SGML.
For technical purists, it’s important to note that there may also be subtle differences between documents as understood by XML systems and those same documents as understood by SGML systems. In particular, treatment of white space immediately adjacent to tags may be different.
So we’re both kinda right I guess.
that’s exactly what html is as well. so if you’re going to say xml isn’t a derivative of sgml, then niether is html
dude, my friend Chris started a business out there in Holland (i guess he came back from Pheonix because he has a girlfriend there or something..?) I have no idea what they do .. but Chris knows his crap about computers, that’s for sure :) i know that he helps out realators some how …
oh yeah, and are you going to tell any stories at fray day ?? :)
Wow - where is Chris going to be doing is mysterious business. Do I know him at all?
On the Fray Day note - I’m not really sure. I don’t really have any stories put together but I’m sure I’ll come up with one or make one up while I’m there.
I’ll try to come up with a story before hand if I have time :-)
Are you coming james?
hell yes, i wouldn’t miss fray day unless i was more than 9 hours away (aka last year)
I never have a story to tell
I think you worked at a cable company with chris for a while or something… not sure. I do know that he doesn’t like christians though .. so i’m sure you didn’t meet him at any church related functions ;-)
Sweet - I’ll be see’in ya at the Fray Day then. My woman is planning on coming along as well. I don’t think she’s going to have a story to tell though either.
Yea, I think I remember Chris now. He’s a good guy - knows alot about computers.
I didn’t know that he started up his own business. What does he do?
I have a name … it’s Jodi, you know.
“your woman”
Chris is in the house !
I felt my ears burning, and came to check out your site. I like the look.
We are doing assorted software development and network installation/support, painting, digging ditches, you know, whatever pays ;)
For the record I don’t hate christians, and yes i DO go to church.
James is also correct in saying that a girl had something to do w/ my move ( I know, I’m pathetic, but if you had the perfect girl, you’d fly 2000 miles for her)
Peace Out
Sweet - welcome to theparagon.ORG Chris. I will say that I don’t think you’re pathetic. However you’re frigg’in crazy, but I guess we all have that in our blood at times, eh?
So does your business have a website or a way of people knowing about you other than word of mouth? I run into people that need things and it’s nice when I know people that can do things that need to get done. Mostly referring to digging ditches - haha.
Hope all goes well with your business.
Aaron Schaap Says:
Geez - I really just need to start learning more about backend development.